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Giles Field's avatar

Tremendous. Very, very cool. That four-fold structure is very important: because the two views are contrastive and precisely inverse you’re correct: there are four ways they can still ‘talk to each other’ in a 2x2 matrix

My further thoughts here: https://fourfoldphilosopher.substack.com/p/are-experiences-actual-or-potential?r=4bks72&utm_medium=ios

Eric Borg's avatar

For a blog post Joseph, you’ve definitely gone the extra mile! Let’s go deeper regarding your analogy between us and this computer game snake. Just as it can’t get back to its code, I don’t think we can in the end either. Regardless of any of my figuring, I might just be the product of Descartes’ “evil demon”. But there is a big difference between me and this snake. I happen to be a value driven mind that can control the snake, though it otherwise presumably has no mind. So let’s try to exploit this apparent difference.

One of your metaphysical options was “material”. More modern would be the term “physical”, though I don’t think even that’s explicitly descriptive enough. I like “causal”, and with a “systemic” modifier to differentiate this from something that a god might affect. I presume that I exist under a world of perfect systemic causality, since this is the only option where science is not rendered obsolete (by gods or any other supernatural dynamics). Furthermore I, as a value based entity that experiences its existence, must then be a product of worldly causal dynamics.

Science suggests that mind is brain based. So given this scaffolding, what are the causal dynamics by which brain creates mind? The most popular position in academia today is that brain creates mind by means of the proper coding alone. In my post #3 I argue that this violates systemic causality — code can only exist as such by informing something causally appropriate. So what might my brain’s code be informing that is causally appropriate to reside as me? In my post #4 I argue that the only option with sufficient bandwidth and dynamism, is the electromagnetic field produced by synchronously firing neurons. Here brain may be considered a non-conscious computer, and mind would be a value driven computer which loops back as EMF that affects the brain. And why did brain evolve to create this value driven computer that is each of us? More open circumstances (perhaps during the Cambrian) may have required far greater autonomy.

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